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Which car is better guys German Japanese or american
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Which one would you personally own.
I hear many people say American quality isn't what it use to be like the 1950's

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I've always thought the Lotus is a kick ass car.

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Look for the Consumer Reports' April 2017 issue to come on sale at book stores around mid-February 2017 to see the latest ratings of each and every car, SUV, mini-vans sold in the US.



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I won't own anything but Ford.

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Ford

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If your talking reliability Japanese is the best(Toyota Corolla being the most reliable), the most reliable US brand is GM, however if you want something that you will actually enjoy owning that is totally subjective. Even FORD((F.O.R.D)=Found On Road Dead) have some very reliable cars in their lineup these days, trucks like the F150 are awesome for reliability, the best even, however their bodies do not age as well as GM trucks over the long term. The Mustangs are usually quite good as well. You will have to research the year you are buying and the model.

Reliability is better than it ever has been, the old guys just don't like all the "newfangled devices", because they can no longer take them apart and fix them.

I would suggest getting a consumer reports to see what kind of problems you can expect from the car you like.

Avoid the lemons, all brands seem to have at least one somewhere in the lineup.

I used to sell cars for many years, the cost of fixing cars should also be taken into consideration, Toyota is one of the cheapest again, honda and subaru(though just as reliable) are expensive to fix. Europeans are expensive as well, and the domestics are usually relatively inexpensive.

Generalizing German cars, they are quite unreliable but awesome to drive, more of a luxury. If you get something like a Volkswagen or an Audi, try to stay away from everything electric you possible can, roll down windows, manual transmission, slide heaters etc are the safest ways to go. BMW 3 series and most entry level Mercedes are good, reliable vehicles.

Post edited at 1:46 am on Jan. 3, 2017 by PBScott

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Quote: from PBScott at 2:29 am on Jan. 3, 2017

If your talking reliability Japanese is the best(Toyota Corolla being the most reliable), the most reliable US brand is GM, however if you want something that you will actually enjoy owning that is totally subjective. Even FORD((F.O.R.D)=Found On Road Dead) have some very reliable cars in their lineup these days, trucks like the F150 are awesome for reliability, the best even, however their bodies do not age as well as GM trucks over the long term. The Mustangs are usually quite good as well. You will have to research the year you are buying and the model.
 
Reliability is better than it ever has been, the old guys just don't like all the "newfangled devices", because they can no longer take them apart and fix them.

I would suggest getting a consumer reports to see what kind of problems you can expect from the car you like.

Avoid the lemons, all brands seem to have at least one somewhere in the lineup.

I used to sell cars for many years, the cost of fixing cars should also be taken into consideration, Toyota is one of the cheapest again, honda and subaru(though just as reliable) are expensive to fix. Europeans are expensive as well, and the domestics are usually relatively inexpensive.

Generalizing German cars, they are quite unreliable but awesome to drive, more of a luxury. If you get something like a Volkswagen or an Audi, try to stay away from everything electric you possible can, roll down windows, manual transmission, slide heaters etc are the safest ways to go. BMW 3 series and most entry level Mercedes are good, reliable vehicles.


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German cars are always the best


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I've owned one of each. American is easiest to work on, German is most fun to drive, Japanese is most likely to be stolen, most common, and most generic experience.

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Quote: from PBScott at 1:29 am on Jan. 3, 2017

If your talking reliability Japanese is the best(Toyota Corolla being the most reliable), the most reliable US brand is GM, however if you want something that you will actually enjoy owning that is totally subjective. Even FORD((F.O.R.D)=Found On Road Dead) have some very reliable cars in their lineup these days, trucks like the F150 are awesome for reliability, the best even, however their bodies do not age as well as GM trucks over the long term. The Mustangs are usually quite good as well. You will have to research the year you are buying and the model.
 
Reliability is better than it ever has been, the old guys just don't like all the "newfangled devices", because they can no longer take them apart and fix them.


I would suggest getting a consumer reports to see what kind of problems you can expect from the car you like.

Avoid the lemons, all brands seem to have at least one somewhere in the lineup.

I used to sell cars for many years, the cost of fixing cars should also be taken into consideration, Toyota is one of the cheapest again, honda and subaru(though just as reliable) are expensive to fix. Europeans are expensive as well, and the domestics are usually relatively inexpensive.

Generalizing German cars, they are quite unreliable but awesome to drive, more of a luxury. If you get something like a Volkswagen or an Audi, try to stay away from everything electric you possible can, roll down windows, manual transmission, slide heaters etc are the safest ways to go. BMW 3 series and most entry level Mercedes are good, reliable vehicles.


Toyotas haven't been reliable since 2003. They, just like Honda, have been coasting on that reputation from the 90's, when they WERE reliable.


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Quote: from Silenced at 5:47 pm on Jan. 3, 2017

Toyotas haven't been reliable since 2003. They, just like Honda, have been coasting on that reputation from the 90's, when they WERE reliable.

Research next time please

Consumer reports does not take any advertising so are unbiased and unbought. Some car magazines like Motortrend and Car and Driver are actually owned by car manufacturers, and advertising in other magazines will of course influence what can and can not be said.

http://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability/10-most-reliable-cars/

http://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability/the-most-and-least-reliable-cars-by-class/

Looks like Prius has taken the corrola's spot, however the corrola was not rated so we can't be sure.

Keep in mind lexus is toyota, and often the same car can be bought under the toyota name for 20% less.

You were right about Honda dropping, however they are still better than all domestics outside of Buick.

http://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability/car-brands-reliability-how-they-stack-up/

The Korean cars are also very reliable, but they are from my experience garbage to drive.

Quote: from Silenced at 5:44 pm on Jan. 3, 2017


I've owned one of each. American is easiest to work on, German is most fun to drive, Japanese is most likely to be stolen, most common, and most generic experience.

Having test driven most every car in production from 1995 until 2009 as part of my job, I concur however some of the high priced Japanese cars are super fantastic, I have fond memories of driving the Lexus SC 430 and Nissan 350z around the Indy track in Vancouver.  The 350z still remains one of my favorite cars.

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Quote: from PBScott at 12:45 am on Jan. 4, 2017

Quote: from Silenced at 5:47 pm on Jan. 3, 2017


Toyotas haven't been reliable since 2003. They, just like Honda, have been coasting on that reputation from the 90's, when they WERE reliable.


Research next time please

Consumer reports does not take any advertising so are unbiased and unbought. Some car magazines like Motortrend and Car and Driver are actually owned by car manufacturers, and advertising in other magazines will of course influence what can and can not be said.

http://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability/10-most-reliable-cars/

http://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability/the-most-and-least-reliable-cars-by-class/

Looks like Prius has taken the corrola's spot, however the corrola was not rated so we can't be sure.

Keep in mind lexus is toyota, and often the same car can be bought under the toyota name for 20% less.

You were right about Honda dropping, however they are still better than all domestics outside of Buick.

http://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability/car-brands-reliability-how-they-stack-up/

The Korean cars are also very reliable, but they are from my experience garbage to drive.

Quote: from Silenced at 5:44 pm on Jan. 3, 2017


I've owned one of each. American is easiest to work on, German is most fun to drive, Japanese is most likely to be stolen, most common, and most generic experience.

Having test driven most every car in production from 1995 until 2009 as part of my job, I concur however some of the high priced Japanese cars are super fantastic, I have fond memories of driving the Lexus SC 430 and Nissan 350z around the Indy track in Vancouver. The 350z still remains one of my favorite cars.


They may not be biased but they don't understand the concept of reliability when they're testing brand new cars and cars less than a year old.


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Most affordable & convenient --> Japanese
Muscle cars --> Murrican
Luxury with high expenses --> German/Italian

For Japanese, Toyota Corolla is the most 'reliable' car and spare parts are cheap.
For Murrican, Ford trucks haul heavy stuff so if you're moving alot, then its for you
For German, it depends on the brand and model.

I got Porsche Cayman and it's decent however the sensors tend to malfunction; my dad bought Mercedes CLS 320  and he's satisfied with it since it's eco-friendly and doesn't consume gas as much as his older Mercedes C200

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Quote: from HungWang at 12:22 pm on Jan. 6, 2017

Most affordable & convenient --> Japanese
Muscle cars --> Murrican
Luxury with high expenses --> German/Italian

For Japanese, Toyota Corolla is the most 'reliable' car and spare parts are cheap.  
For Murrican, Ford trucks haul heavy stuff so if you're moving alot, then its for you
For German, it depends on the brand and model.  

I got Porsche Cayman and it's decent however the sensors tend to malfunction; my dad bought Mercedes CLS 320 and he's satisfied with it since it's eco-friendly and doesn't consume gas as much as his older Mercedes C200


Ford is affordable and convenient


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